Can you imagine if every credit union measured ROA with a different ruler? Credit unions know that achieving a 100 bp ROA is good. You can have a lower one if you manage risk well. Net worth is another measure of safety and soundness that we all measure exactly the same way. If we didn’t we’d be in trouble.
But when it comes to measuring the REAL business we are in - serving the member - we do it sporadically (if at all) there is no credit union standard, we’ve never tied it to growth - we simply don’t have any reliable data. Consequently, financial measures rule the organization. They become our filter for all decision making.
The author of Loyalty Rules, The Loyalty Effect and his most recent, The Ultimate Question puts it best:
“A lot of companies survey customers once or twice a year and they average the numbers across all products and locations. First of all, satisfaction is not the right metric. Secondly, how can an average score once or twice a year be sufficient? Imagine that you only looked at profits averaged across all your product lines only once a year. How good would you be at managing profits? That’s how good you will be at managing loyalty.” - Fred Reichheld
When I first read about the Net Promoter Score (NPS), I was giddy. Here is a metric that is simple to use but packs a powerful punch in terms of data. Reliable data. NPS is a measure of the relationship between your member and your brand that is predictive of growth.
Diana Dkystra will be substantiating that statement at the FORUM Symposium later this year. She’s been measuring her brand with NPS for over three years. ROA no longer drives her decision making - it’s the member.
Many credit unions have used the NPS tool - however there is not a standard methodology (like ROA) that has been adopted. Until now.
Addison Avenue Credit Union, AmericaFirst Credit Union, Baxter Credit Union, BECU, Educators Credit Union (in Racine, Wisconsin), and San Francisco Fire Credit Union announced today the formation of the Member Loyalty Group, L.L.C. - a Credit Union Service Organization (CUSO) created to implement a standardized member-loyalty metric for credit unions nationwide.
The CUSO has partnered with Satmetrix, the company that developed the NPS (with Fred Reichheld), to first implement Satmetrix’s member-loyalty services. And in a few months will offer those services to all credit unions in the country, large and small.
The Member Loyalty Group’s six founding organizations have all been using the Net Promoter Score (NPS) metric to measure member loyalty for several years.
These credit unions were concerned, however, that the NPS was not being used in the same way by all of them. So they banded together to form a CUSO that would partner with Satmetrix, the company that developed the NPS, to first implement Satmetrix’s member-loyalty services within their organizations and then offer those services to all credit unions in the country, large and small.
Michelle Bloedorn, former VP Sales and Service for Baxter Credit Union has been named Executive Director of the CUSO. “Our number one priority is to develop THE standard metric for NPS. Many credit unions are using the NPS survey tool, but the methodology is not the same,” says Bloedorn. “Like ROA, we need to measure our member loyalty with the same ruler. The bottom-line has been the only measure of success and yet loyalty is what made credit unions grow. If your members cannot refer you, you will have a tough time growing in this increasingly competitive market.”
I am so excited for credit unions, and for our members to have this data.
Stay tuned……

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April 20, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Tim McAlpine
Congratulations Denise. You have really put your heart into this and all of your hard work is paying off.
April 22, 2008 at 6:12 pm
David Gerbino
I was educated on hard science in the form of financial analysis, marketing analysis, multivariate statistics etc. I have never understood the appeal of one simple question, “Would you recommend us to a friend or colleague?” to be so strong at predicting business success. The measurement of the answer to this question followed by building a customer-centric culture leads me to believe it is a customer centric approach that provides success and has nothing to do with the New Promoter Score. I am real curious to learn about the results from FORUM Symposium later this year.
Additionally if, From the Satmetrix website:
“Calculating Your Net Promoter Score
Likelihood to recommend
One question provides the best predictor of customer loyalty for the vast majority of businesses: How likely is it that you would recommend (Company/Product X) to a friend or colleague? Using a 0 to 10 scale, you can calculate your Net Promoter Score (NPS) by taking the percentage of Promoters, and subtracting the percentage of Detractors.
NPS is a straightforward metric that holds companies and employees accountable for how they treat customers. When combined with appropriate diagnostics and follow-up actions, it drives improvements in customer loyalty and enables profitable growth.”
NPS is really the basis of profitable growth there should be scientifically proven success. All I have been able to find is that it has not been proven.
Follow this link to a peer reviewed study regarding NPS published in 2007 by the American Marketing Association:
http://www.atypon-link.com/AMA/doi/pdf/10.1509/jmkg.71.3.39
In closing, I find all of this very intriguing.
April 23, 2008 at 5:42 pm
rebecca secor
I just wanted to say thank you for having the vision and the passion to see this through! Words cannot express how grateful I am that you offered this opportunity to us. I am certain that our raging success will be all the thanks you need
In response to David’s comments above…from someone who has been practicing the discipline…there is certainly plenty of evidence to support the Net Promoter Principle. Loyalty leaders (those with the top NPS in their industry) consistently outperform their competition in growth. Reichheld and Satmetrix have done their homework and it’s all available on their site at netpromoter.com.
So, my question to you is…why wait? The point of practicing the Net Promoter discipline is not to focus on the scores…it’s to get in the game! You’re already getting feedback from members on a daily basis…so start listening, give them more ways to let you know how they feel and respond back to them. Thank them for sharing their thoughts and time and then DO something about it. The score isn’t important. The idea is to begin to build an ongoing dialogue between you and your members.
I could talk about this forever, so feel free to shoot me an email rebeccas@ecu.com.
April 25, 2008 at 8:51 am
Roger Conant
Makes sense to me, Denise. Don’t forget the “gender” angle we discussed.
April 25, 2008 at 9:09 am
Denise Wymore
Rebecca,
This is the beginning of something big and great and important - I agree.
I love your advice to David. Get in the game. We’re all learning this together.
I have to share with you something that I discovered this week. I am continually frustrated with the meager wages we pay tellers. Knowing that they have more influence and control over the credit union’s reputation (which is ultimately what NPS measures) than anyone else. But how do you quantify that value? So I started looking simply at transactions.
In this CU, one teller processes, on average, about 2100 transactions per month.
They have 8900 active checking accounts (we used this to assume the majority of the transactions processed related to these members).
We also assumed that the 2100 transactions does not probably mean 2100 different members (as we know we have branch groupies). So conservatively we cut that number in half.
That means that ONE teller could touch 12% of all active checking (the product that determines PFI) in just one month. Oh, and we pay them $19,000 a year.
WOAH!
I know this is kind of “fuzzy math” at this point, but I’m determined to dig deeper. We have to stop the madness of treating our tellers like second class citizens. They ARE the brand. We need to quantify their value!!
Whew - that felt good.
Can’t wait to hear your comments on this….
April 26, 2008 at 9:49 am
Susan Epperson
Denise!!
You were giddy when you first read about NPS, and I’m giddy reading about this.
I absolutely BELIEVE in putting the member first. I can feel it in my gut…it’s the right thing. It’s emotional. It may even feel irrational at times, when you’re talking with someone who was raised on numbers. But, people will respond. We (even the analytics among us) do it every day in every choice we make. It’s why I drive out of my way to fill up the car at WaWa. It’s why my hubby and I spend the equivalent of another mortgage payment for our kids’ childcare. I BELIEVE these folks I choose will work with me to achieve my goals (reasonable gas, good food, well-developed children, etc.) Notice I said “folks,” not companies. (I just noticed it myself on the re-read.)
But, a gut feeling isn’t enough for all of my team. I am thrilled that this CUSO could be a way to translate this gut/emotional/touchy-feely stuff into something that my analytical colleagues can also embrace.
I’m in. I’m so in. And I’m so ready to hear “How To Screw Up NPS.” It’s going to be critical that we know when to listen for the “Danger Will Robinson” warning.
And paying tellers (our members’ favorite people) more money?…RADICAL. I LOVE IT!!! I am so weary over the %&%*$#* arguements I’m constantly having over incentives. We’re not selling widgets. I know we need the numbers to run a business. But, we’re selling attention, charm, care and financial knowledge. Now I just need to know how to quantify a relationship. (I guess divorce attorneys do it all the time.) Can this new CUSO do that?
Go get em!! I can’t wait to hear more!!
Geez, I’m actually gushing.
April 28, 2008 at 5:31 am
rebecca secor
Denise & Susan, I couldn’t agree with you more! Bene-s and wages come up consistently in our internal NP rankings (would you recommend us as an employer?), but we’re not willing to take a hard look at it.
Wouldn’t it be worthwhile to at least make a test run at it? I can’t wait to see some experimentation with teller wages. I would almost guarantee that the higher the wages (assuming internal culture, support and products, etc. remain the same) would increase the NP scores.
Our turnover rate, org wide, is about 30%!!! And our members LOVE it when we recognize them and know about their lives…we’re like family. So, wouldn’t it be worth it to keep the good ones by paying them well. And don’t you think that the word would get around…that you pay well and you’d have more applicants than you know what to do with??
I think this arguement would also apply to call center staff, as well. I think they get more abuse than the tellers do…on the phone, the other person doesn’t seem as human. Our reps hear language I wouldn’t even dream of. Isn’t that worth something???
I really hope that a few credit unions are willing to take the leap of faith…the costs may be large, but so are the rewards!
April 28, 2008 at 7:56 am
Denise Wymore
Rebecca,
This is great stuff. Especially about the call center.
If you want to grow your business, it’s simple. Treat people well. Pay them well. Take care of your frontline and they will take care of your member.
We are nothing without our members.
Employee turnover and member turnover. I’ll bet there’s a correlation in there.
That is my mission - to quantify that in terms that CFOs, CEOs, COOs, CMOs and all the other “Os” understand.
June 13, 2008 at 7:32 am
Paul Schwartz
Seems to me that NPS is backwards. If you are just measuring the number of promoters and detractors you have, you’re too late. Credit Unions are about people helping people. Being member-centric is not about having members refer you to others, it’s about what you do as a credit union for your members that will drive them to refer others. I don’t see NPS doing that. If your NPS goes up or down 10 points, why did it do that? How can one question (NPS) correlate to the multitude of things you actually do or don’t do for members? It more important to measure the things you can do for members that will create that positive word-of-mouth, or that referral. It’s about being a member advocate, not measuring how many members are your advocate. Measuring a credit union’s ability to be a member-advocate is getting more to the heart of being member-centric.
June 13, 2008 at 8:24 am
Denise Wymore
Paul,
You make an excellent point and I couldn’t agree more. I could care less what a credit union NPS score is - I care about WHY the members can or cannot recommend. You get that with the open-ended follow-up question on the survey - WHY did you answer the way you did.
I’ve been working with credit unions to help them identify root causes of detractors. Whether it’s a stupid policy, a poorly executed strategy, staffing, whatever. The heavy lifting comes in the verbatims - not the score.
Thanks for your comment,
Denise